We had a strike in No. 2 Open Hearth when a Negro fellow was refused permission to become a second helper. There were many Southern people who had come in at that time, and were working as third and second helpers. This thing broke out: management refused to give him the job and [management] was supported by the other workers. We held a meeting inside the plant. Gillies, the superintendent, spoke first. He was wishy-washy: "Well fellows, you know what's right and what's wrong, but we can't force you." Then I spoke after Gillies got through. I told them in plain words that this was wrong, that the union would never support them, that this man was entitled to a job regardless of his race. I pointed out to them that discrimination starts, maybe, with a Negro, but next it will go to the Mexican worker, and that it hasn't been long since Mexican workers could not work at this job (and there were Mexican workers there listening), and then it'll go to the Kentuckian, the hillbilly. I said, "Then a so-called hillbilly won't be able to work in a steel mill. And where will it stop?" After that the man was given his job.