Graham: There were always people trying to buy us. There was another one just at the point where we found Fred Egan—a Japanese company that later made an imitation of our software and went on to become a big success in Japan. Rakuten, they were called.

Livingston: They copied you?

Graham: Not very well. It's sort of like if you copied a dog by taking a photograph of a dog and sticking it onto a cardboard cutout. From certain angles it would look like a dog, but if you threw a stick and yelled "fetch" it wouldn't do anything. The Japanese market wasn't as far along then, so in their market, this was pretty advanced. But the entire time, there were always people trying to buy us, of various levels of seriousness.