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Wealth taxes, inheritance taxes, a tax on financial transactions and a tax on robots have all been mentioned as possible sources of finance for a basic income. Another suggestion is for Google, Facebook and other corporations to pay for the data users now provide for free, from which they make the bulk of their profits, which could then be shared out as a basic income.

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In the UK, Stewart Lansley has suggested paying a basic income from a 'social wealth fund' financed by a charge on share ownership. He calculates that a 0.5 per cent annual levy on ownership of shares in the top 100 companies quoted on the UK stock market would raise over £8 billion [...] More than half these sums would be a charge on overseas owners. This writer has proposed a levy on rental income from private ownership and exploitation of all types of property--physical, financial and intellectual--that would be used to build the fund.

not bad

—p.150 The Affordability Issue (127) by Guy Standing 7 years, 4 months ago

Wealth taxes, inheritance taxes, a tax on financial transactions and a tax on robots have all been mentioned as possible sources of finance for a basic income. Another suggestion is for Google, Facebook and other corporations to pay for the data users now provide for free, from which they make the bulk of their profits, which could then be shared out as a basic income.

[...]

In the UK, Stewart Lansley has suggested paying a basic income from a 'social wealth fund' financed by a charge on share ownership. He calculates that a 0.5 per cent annual levy on ownership of shares in the top 100 companies quoted on the UK stock market would raise over £8 billion [...] More than half these sums would be a charge on overseas owners. This writer has proposed a levy on rental income from private ownership and exploitation of all types of property--physical, financial and intellectual--that would be used to build the fund.

not bad

—p.150 The Affordability Issue (127) by Guy Standing 7 years, 4 months ago
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Meanwhile, the amount of other, very real but unpaid work is extensive and rising. In the UK--and it is similar in other countries--the unrenumerated economy (caring for the children and the elderly, housework, voluntary work in the community and so on) is estimated to be worth well over half the size of the money economy.

Even these estimates do not count the 'work' we all do in our dealings with government (filing tax returns scarcely counts as 'leisure'), as consumers (self-service checkouts) and in what I have called 'work-for-labour', unpaid work around jobs or job seeking, which has expanded with 'always on' connectivity. The precariat in particular must do a lot of work (in their eyes) that is not counted or renumerated--hunting for jobs, enduring complex time-consuming recruitment processes, waiting for on-call labour, queueing and form-filling for meagre benefits of some kind.

—p.158 The Implications for Work and Labour (155) by Guy Standing 7 years, 4 months ago

Meanwhile, the amount of other, very real but unpaid work is extensive and rising. In the UK--and it is similar in other countries--the unrenumerated economy (caring for the children and the elderly, housework, voluntary work in the community and so on) is estimated to be worth well over half the size of the money economy.

Even these estimates do not count the 'work' we all do in our dealings with government (filing tax returns scarcely counts as 'leisure'), as consumers (self-service checkouts) and in what I have called 'work-for-labour', unpaid work around jobs or job seeking, which has expanded with 'always on' connectivity. The precariat in particular must do a lot of work (in their eyes) that is not counted or renumerated--hunting for jobs, enduring complex time-consuming recruitment processes, waiting for on-call labour, queueing and form-filling for meagre benefits of some kind.

—p.158 The Implications for Work and Labour (155) by Guy Standing 7 years, 4 months ago
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At best, they showed small cuts in paid labour for some groups, notably mothers with young children and teenagers still at school. In the Canadian Mincome experiment, 'mothers with newborns stopped working because they wanted to stay home longer with their babies, and teenagers worked less because they weren't under as much pressure to support their families, which resulted in more teenagers graduating'.

Similarly, the US experiments found that people took the opportunity to better their lives, including studying or a degree and setting themselves up in business. There were double-digit increases in high-school graduation rates in New Jersey, Seattle and Denver. [...]

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Opinion polls in a number of countries have found that when people are asked if they would reduce work and labour if they had a basic income, the overwhelming majority say they would not. However, when asked if other people would reduce work and labour, they tend to say others would. Other people are lazy, but not me! There is also a presumption on the part of critics that people on low incomes will reduce labour and work in response to a basic income, whereas they presume no such thing for richer people. After all, billionaires such as Bill Gates, Warren Buffett and Mark Zuckerberg still work, though they certainly do not need the income!

the billionaire argument is pretty specious cus that sort of billionaire (i.e., the sort that gets rich through work) is already known for wanting to work--they've already proven that they plan to keep working--so his objection doesn't really make sense, though I do see his larger point (Other vs Self etc)

—p.163 The Implications for Work and Labour (155) by Guy Standing 7 years, 4 months ago

At best, they showed small cuts in paid labour for some groups, notably mothers with young children and teenagers still at school. In the Canadian Mincome experiment, 'mothers with newborns stopped working because they wanted to stay home longer with their babies, and teenagers worked less because they weren't under as much pressure to support their families, which resulted in more teenagers graduating'.

Similarly, the US experiments found that people took the opportunity to better their lives, including studying or a degree and setting themselves up in business. There were double-digit increases in high-school graduation rates in New Jersey, Seattle and Denver. [...]

[...]

Opinion polls in a number of countries have found that when people are asked if they would reduce work and labour if they had a basic income, the overwhelming majority say they would not. However, when asked if other people would reduce work and labour, they tend to say others would. Other people are lazy, but not me! There is also a presumption on the part of critics that people on low incomes will reduce labour and work in response to a basic income, whereas they presume no such thing for richer people. After all, billionaires such as Bill Gates, Warren Buffett and Mark Zuckerberg still work, though they certainly do not need the income!

the billionaire argument is pretty specious cus that sort of billionaire (i.e., the sort that gets rich through work) is already known for wanting to work--they've already proven that they plan to keep working--so his objection doesn't really make sense, though I do see his larger point (Other vs Self etc)

—p.163 The Implications for Work and Labour (155) by Guy Standing 7 years, 4 months ago
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A basic income paid to everybody would enable caregivers, mostly women, to replace their own work with paid labour if they wished, and would enable 'care-recipients' relying on the gift work of relatives to purchase care labour services. [...]

I take issue with this line of reasoning - it really only works if either

  1. the paid labour that replaces their carework is robots; or,
  2. there just happen to be enough other people on basic income (women or not) who are happy to spend their time taking care of other people's families even though they don't need the money to survive;
  3. the people who are relied on for care work don't qualify for basic income for some reason (e.g., immigrants), in which case you're relying on this reserve army of subalterns to clean up your kids diapers for you while you're out fulfilling your dreams

  4. would be great but we're not there yet; i'll be damned if 2. is true; and 3. is probably what he's thinking (it mirrors what occurs already).

so what's the solution? well, basically, you have to accept that sharing DNA with someone who can't take care of their self doesn't entitle you to the devoted services of a stranger. either you take care of them or you suffer the consequences. ideally you have people who are willing to volunteer to do this, but if not, idk if i believe that forcing them to do so (via financial penalties) is in everyone's best interests

—p.169 The Implications for Work and Labour (155) by Guy Standing 7 years, 4 months ago

A basic income paid to everybody would enable caregivers, mostly women, to replace their own work with paid labour if they wished, and would enable 'care-recipients' relying on the gift work of relatives to purchase care labour services. [...]

I take issue with this line of reasoning - it really only works if either

  1. the paid labour that replaces their carework is robots; or,
  2. there just happen to be enough other people on basic income (women or not) who are happy to spend their time taking care of other people's families even though they don't need the money to survive;
  3. the people who are relied on for care work don't qualify for basic income for some reason (e.g., immigrants), in which case you're relying on this reserve army of subalterns to clean up your kids diapers for you while you're out fulfilling your dreams

  4. would be great but we're not there yet; i'll be damned if 2. is true; and 3. is probably what he's thinking (it mirrors what occurs already).

so what's the solution? well, basically, you have to accept that sharing DNA with someone who can't take care of their self doesn't entitle you to the devoted services of a stranger. either you take care of them or you suffer the consequences. ideally you have people who are willing to volunteer to do this, but if not, idk if i believe that forcing them to do so (via financial penalties) is in everyone's best interests

—p.169 The Implications for Work and Labour (155) by Guy Standing 7 years, 4 months ago
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Ever since debates on poverty and basic income began, some have argued that income support should be conditional on 'making a contribution to society'. The late Tony Atkinson was a longstanding proponent of a 'participation income', while something similar was proposed earlier by Andre Gorz. In his recent writings, Atkinson proposed that everybody should receive a basic income, but that in return they should do at least thirty-five hours of 'recognized' work activity per week.

The obligation might look fair, but in practice would not be. The condition would not affect those already in full-time jobs and earning a good income, whereas for others who could only do or obtain jobs involving hard manual labour or paying very low wages, the obligation would be arduous, costly and difficult to maintain. The condition would also distort the labour market, pushing wages down at the lower end by increasing the supply of labour, and so impoverishing others who have done nothing to 'deserve' it. That too would be unfair.

The administrative costs of monitoring such a scheme would be enormous, unless it were treated as merely a gesture to gain popular approval and not enforced. And it would leave awkward questions about what activities would count and how they would be counted. Would caring for a frail grandmother count as recognized work? If so, how would the bureaucratic official determine whether someone was caring for her or watching a football match on TV? Would a report from the person receiving the care be required to vouch for it?

he continues by explaining the scope for gaming the system, plus problems with an alternative of community enforcement (basically: no due process for arbitration, and no real point)

—p.175 The Implications for Work and Labour (155) by Guy Standing 7 years, 4 months ago

Ever since debates on poverty and basic income began, some have argued that income support should be conditional on 'making a contribution to society'. The late Tony Atkinson was a longstanding proponent of a 'participation income', while something similar was proposed earlier by Andre Gorz. In his recent writings, Atkinson proposed that everybody should receive a basic income, but that in return they should do at least thirty-five hours of 'recognized' work activity per week.

The obligation might look fair, but in practice would not be. The condition would not affect those already in full-time jobs and earning a good income, whereas for others who could only do or obtain jobs involving hard manual labour or paying very low wages, the obligation would be arduous, costly and difficult to maintain. The condition would also distort the labour market, pushing wages down at the lower end by increasing the supply of labour, and so impoverishing others who have done nothing to 'deserve' it. That too would be unfair.

The administrative costs of monitoring such a scheme would be enormous, unless it were treated as merely a gesture to gain popular approval and not enforced. And it would leave awkward questions about what activities would count and how they would be counted. Would caring for a frail grandmother count as recognized work? If so, how would the bureaucratic official determine whether someone was caring for her or watching a football match on TV? Would a report from the person receiving the care be required to vouch for it?

he continues by explaining the scope for gaming the system, plus problems with an alternative of community enforcement (basically: no due process for arbitration, and no real point)

—p.175 The Implications for Work and Labour (155) by Guy Standing 7 years, 4 months ago
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First, measuring income is complicated and involves arbitrary cut-off rules. Taking and 'wealth' into account encourages dis-saving, which reduces resilience at times of financial stress.

Second, applying means tests entails high costs, both for the administration and for claimants who must travel to benefit offices, wait, queue, fill in lengthy forms, produce supporting documents and so on, all of which take time and often hard cash.

Third, means testing involves intrusive questions, including about claimants' intimate personal relationships, that may be followed up by home visits, for example, to check that there is no live-in partner earning an income. It is a regime of prying, invasion of privacy, and presumption of guilt rather than innocence, which demeans the staff running it as well as claimants.

Fourth, as a result, the process and the prospect of it are stigmatizing. This is often deliberate, to reduce the cost of welfare by deterring claimants. [...]

This leads to the fifth failing, low-take-up. [...]

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Sixth, means testing undermines social solidarity, separating 'us' from 'them'. We, who support ourselves, pay taxes to support them, the scroungers. [...]

The seventh and most well-known failing is the notorious poverty trap [...] people on benefits who take a minimum wage job would lose money [...]

This leads to the eighth failing, the inevitable drift to workfare [...] the state is left with little choice but to force people to take low-paid labour.

A ninth failure is that means-tested social assistance deters stable household formation. [...]

A tenth failing relates to income-tested Jobseeker's Allowance, which is determined on the basis of family income. If one of a couple is unemployed, the couple loses financially if the other is doing a small amount of paid labour. [...]

—p.194 The Alternatives (185) by Guy Standing 7 years, 4 months ago

First, measuring income is complicated and involves arbitrary cut-off rules. Taking and 'wealth' into account encourages dis-saving, which reduces resilience at times of financial stress.

Second, applying means tests entails high costs, both for the administration and for claimants who must travel to benefit offices, wait, queue, fill in lengthy forms, produce supporting documents and so on, all of which take time and often hard cash.

Third, means testing involves intrusive questions, including about claimants' intimate personal relationships, that may be followed up by home visits, for example, to check that there is no live-in partner earning an income. It is a regime of prying, invasion of privacy, and presumption of guilt rather than innocence, which demeans the staff running it as well as claimants.

Fourth, as a result, the process and the prospect of it are stigmatizing. This is often deliberate, to reduce the cost of welfare by deterring claimants. [...]

This leads to the fifth failing, low-take-up. [...]

[...]

Sixth, means testing undermines social solidarity, separating 'us' from 'them'. We, who support ourselves, pay taxes to support them, the scroungers. [...]

The seventh and most well-known failing is the notorious poverty trap [...] people on benefits who take a minimum wage job would lose money [...]

This leads to the eighth failing, the inevitable drift to workfare [...] the state is left with little choice but to force people to take low-paid labour.

A ninth failure is that means-tested social assistance deters stable household formation. [...]

A tenth failing relates to income-tested Jobseeker's Allowance, which is determined on the basis of family income. If one of a couple is unemployed, the couple loses financially if the other is doing a small amount of paid labour. [...]

—p.194 The Alternatives (185) by Guy Standing 7 years, 4 months ago
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[...] A job guarantee would be a deception. What sort of jobs would be guaranteed? At what rate of pay would they be provided? What would be the consequence for declining the specific job being 'guaranteed'? Since it is completely unrealistic to guarantee everyone a job that suits them, makes use of their skills and pays well, in practice the job would be low-level, low-paid, short-term and 'make-work', or at best low-productivity labour. Cleaning the streets, filling shelves in supermarkets and similar menial activities are an unlikely road to happiness. Those arguing for a job guarantee would certainly not want those jobs for themselves or their children.

on the guaranteed job proposal as an alternative to BI

there was someone at Left Forum who proposed jobs related to environmental costs, like building renewal energy and stuff, need to look into that some more (but it's still not necessarily work that could be done by anyone)

the big question is: would we want GJ because there is actually work that absolutely needs to be done? or is it more to "punish" people and make them suffer before they earn the right to live?

—p.201 The Alternatives (185) by Guy Standing 7 years, 4 months ago

[...] A job guarantee would be a deception. What sort of jobs would be guaranteed? At what rate of pay would they be provided? What would be the consequence for declining the specific job being 'guaranteed'? Since it is completely unrealistic to guarantee everyone a job that suits them, makes use of their skills and pays well, in practice the job would be low-level, low-paid, short-term and 'make-work', or at best low-productivity labour. Cleaning the streets, filling shelves in supermarkets and similar menial activities are an unlikely road to happiness. Those arguing for a job guarantee would certainly not want those jobs for themselves or their children.

on the guaranteed job proposal as an alternative to BI

there was someone at Left Forum who proposed jobs related to environmental costs, like building renewal energy and stuff, need to look into that some more (but it's still not necessarily work that could be done by anyone)

the big question is: would we want GJ because there is actually work that absolutely needs to be done? or is it more to "punish" people and make them suffer before they earn the right to live?

—p.201 The Alternatives (185) by Guy Standing 7 years, 4 months ago
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Tax credits are a subsidy to capital, whatever impact they have on poverty and the incomes of wage workers. One US estimate suggests that for every dollar spent on the EITC the low-wage worker gains 73 cents while the employer gains 27 cents by paying lower wages. In the similar finding for the UK, researchers have concluded that about three-quarters of the value of tax credits goes to workers, the rest to employees.

I mean everything is a subsidy to capital in some way unless it improves the collective bargaining power of labour (and they carry through)

—p.208 The Alternatives (185) by Guy Standing 7 years, 4 months ago

Tax credits are a subsidy to capital, whatever impact they have on poverty and the incomes of wage workers. One US estimate suggests that for every dollar spent on the EITC the low-wage worker gains 73 cents while the employer gains 27 cents by paying lower wages. In the similar finding for the UK, researchers have concluded that about three-quarters of the value of tax credits goes to workers, the rest to employees.

I mean everything is a subsidy to capital in some way unless it improves the collective bargaining power of labour (and they carry through)

—p.208 The Alternatives (185) by Guy Standing 7 years, 4 months ago
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Although an NIT would be a useful anti-poverty device, it would do little to advance republican freedom or provide assured economic security, nor would it be a vehicle for social justice. It would not apply to people without jobs or with incomes too low to pay tax. [...]

Milton Friedman's idea; similar to BI but would be based on household earnings (like regular tax credits) and would be paid (if at all) after the fiscal year (basically tax refund) and it would be hard to estimate the amount in advance. so just a regular means-tested scheme

—p.212 The Alternatives (185) by Guy Standing 7 years, 4 months ago

Although an NIT would be a useful anti-poverty device, it would do little to advance republican freedom or provide assured economic security, nor would it be a vehicle for social justice. It would not apply to people without jobs or with incomes too low to pay tax. [...]

Milton Friedman's idea; similar to BI but would be based on household earnings (like regular tax credits) and would be paid (if at all) after the fiscal year (basically tax refund) and it would be hard to estimate the amount in advance. so just a regular means-tested scheme

—p.212 The Alternatives (185) by Guy Standing 7 years, 4 months ago
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Charity is based on the sentiment of 'pity' and, as the philosopher David Hume noted, pity is akin to contempt. Private charity as a central feature of social policy may satisfy libertarians, but it profoundly offends the central idea of republican freedom, that of non-domination. Being dependent on the good will of offers is not consistent with full freedom On the contrary, it compromises the freedom of the giver as well as the supplicant.

[....]

The fact that so many people in modern society are going to food banks and shelters demonstrates social policy failure. Private philanthropy should be marginalize again; it is an undemocratic way of shaping society and the selective well-being of individuals, groups and communities.

thought: private charity does intersect (or at least approximate) democracy in the case where capital allocation is proportionate and remains that way (i.e., there is full capital distributional equality), but then it's indistinguishable from regular democracy and provision of social services and it's also quite different from what we think of as charity so yeah burn it down

—p.213 The Alternatives (185) by Guy Standing 7 years, 4 months ago

Charity is based on the sentiment of 'pity' and, as the philosopher David Hume noted, pity is akin to contempt. Private charity as a central feature of social policy may satisfy libertarians, but it profoundly offends the central idea of republican freedom, that of non-domination. Being dependent on the good will of offers is not consistent with full freedom On the contrary, it compromises the freedom of the giver as well as the supplicant.

[....]

The fact that so many people in modern society are going to food banks and shelters demonstrates social policy failure. Private philanthropy should be marginalize again; it is an undemocratic way of shaping society and the selective well-being of individuals, groups and communities.

thought: private charity does intersect (or at least approximate) democracy in the case where capital allocation is proportionate and remains that way (i.e., there is full capital distributional equality), but then it's indistinguishable from regular democracy and provision of social services and it's also quite different from what we think of as charity so yeah burn it down

—p.213 The Alternatives (185) by Guy Standing 7 years, 4 months ago